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really big happened. south carolina senator jim demint announced today he'll be leaving the senate. he'll not be there anymore. he's leaving to head a think tank called the heritage foundation where he stands to make something like ten times his current salary. yay for jim demint, good money. kind of. it's good for him, but it's really good for his colleague, republican senate leader mitch mcconnell. you see, jim demint is not your ordinary senator. he's like the grover norquist of the senate. he's the guy the other republican senators are really afraid of. and that is because more so than anyone else and definitely more than any other republican politician, demint is behind the tea party strategy of purifying the republican party in the cleansing fire of party primaries. demint created this pac called the senate conservativist fund, a pac he made into a super pac which makes it more super and exists to help conservative republicans beat other republicans. "since 2009 demint has raised more than $17 million to promote promising candidates in an effort to remake the senate not just in a
't come from the white house, it didn't come from democrats, it came from senator jim demint. the tea party hero who famously made this vow with the president's health care law. >> if we're able to stop obama on this, it will be his waterloo. it will break him. >> guess what, it wasn't the president's waterlook but today he announced that he's leaving the senate to run a conservative think tank. and just like that, gone is is a man who represented all of the obstruction, the man who defined gridlock and was the face of ugliness in the tea party movement. the night of the president's inauguration, he met with other republicans to plot against the president. he threatened to single handedly shut down the senate in 2010 and stood strong with congressman todd akin after his legitimate rape comments. today's announcement is another line in the tea party obit. it's another nail in the tea party coffin. a movement that vowed to change washington. >> the tea party movement is alive and well. >> it's going to continue to redefine the political landscape in 2012. >> this november we're going to
, welcome to "the ed show" from new york. senator jim demint has met his waterloo. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> one republican senator said, i'm quoting him now, if we're able to stop obama on this, it will be his waterloo. it will break him. think about that. >> jim demint is cutting and running. john boehner is in a box. grover norquist near oblivion. karl rove benched on fox news. and the real action of barack obama has sent the republican party into total disarray. >> that's what i'm talking about. >> congressman jim clyburn of south carolina and eugene robinson on the latest republican fiasco. >>> plus, congressman chris van hollen on john boehner's latest concession on the fiscal cliff. michael eric dyson and donna genteel-o'donnell on the political fallout. howard dean on chris christie's big decision on the obama care exchange. and apple's ceo breaks big news to nbc's brian williams. >> next year, we will do one of our existing mac lines in the united states. >> tonight, a story of economic patriotism in an era of bain capital with e.j. dionne. good to have you w
. >> south carolina senator jim demint -- >> jim demint says he is resigning. >> his surprise announcement to step down. >> i think i'm in a more powerful position. >> are you kidding me? >> he doesn't have a law to his name. >> he has been a singular failure as a political strategist. >> i think i'm in a more powerful position. >> the disarray of the republican party. >> there is no progress. >> they don't know what they stand for. >> no progress. >> they don't know what to do. >> no progress. >> they have some real soul-searching to do. >> today the united states supreme court -- >> the supreme court used this afternoon -- >> said they would take up the issue of same-sex marriage. >> it really is an incredible day today. >> important social issues. >> the defense of marriage act. >> on the table for the supreme court. >> will the court be ahead of where the public is? >> what a question. what a story. >> good evening. i'm alex wagner in for lawrence o'donnell. will the republicans be able to face reality before we go over the fiscal curb? with just 24 days to go, it fell to chris wallace
now on "andrea mitchell reports," from congress to conservative think tank, what will senator jim demint's departure from the senate mean for republicans? following breaking developments from capitol hill. >>> finding a fiscal fix. is a grand bargain possible before the end of the year? tim geithner tells cnbc the white house is ready to over the cliff if republicans don't budge on taxes. >> is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. >> alan simpson co-chair of the president's debt commission, says both sides are making a high stakes gamble. >> when you have leaders of parties and people of the administration saying, i think it will be to the advantage of the democrats to go off the cliff, i think it will be advantage to the republicans to go off the cliff, or the president to go off the cliff, that's like betting your country. there's stupidity involved in that. >>> syria on the bring. secretary of state hillary clinton holds emergency talks with russia as u.s. officials confirm reports that the syrian military is prepared to launch chemical weapons a
find his way back to the middle in november. on the other side is the right wing, jim demint, rick santorum, the talk radio conservative media industrial complex. they make the same argument ideologues always make when they lose. the problem to them was our guy wasn't ideological enough. the conflict is playing out in technicolor with demint blowing the united states senate to become the ceo of the conservative movement and firing a warning shot at boehner in the process. joining me are michael steele, former rnc chair, now one of us, and joy reid, managing editor of thegrio.com. she's also one of us. thank you, gentleman and lady. i want you to look at something. this is what happens when you go near what i call the misery index, the rush limbaugh show. yesterday jim demint, still the united states senator from south carolina, and the outgoing heritage president ed fuelner went on rush, the misery index, and yuck-yucked about john boehner. they made fun of the speaker. let's listen. >> well, i think it's safe to say boehner is not forcing either of you guys out, right? >> that's p
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's jim demint says he's resigning to run the heritage foundation. will he even have more power among conservatives on the outside? and who is on 0 the short list for nikki haley to fill the seat? and breaking news from the romney campaign. you heard me right. the final fund-raising month was an unusual press release raises a few eyebrows. causes some finger pointing and reminds us of the multibillion-dollar campaign we just went through. good morning from new york city. it's friday, december 7th, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. you should always remember this is a day that lives in infamy and if you don't know why, ask your parents or your grandparents to explain. let's get right to my first reads of the morning. as the republican party picks up the pieces and searches for the next generation of leaders, one of the conservative movements most influential icons of late and inside the senate, south carolina's jim demint, stunned his colleagues by resigning to become a full-time political activist. in effect, the ceo of the conservative movement. just two years into h
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he could never find his way back in november. on the other side, jim demint, rick santorum and the industrial complex that make the same argument ideologues always make when they lose, the problem our guy wasn't ideological enough. the problem is going out in technicolor with demint bolting out to become the ceo of the conservative movement. joining me is the former head of the rnc and joy reed, managing editor of rio.com, also one of us. this is what happens when you go near the misery index, the rush limbaugh show. yesterday, jim demint, still the united states senator from south carolina and the out-going heritage foundation president dent and rush made fun of the speaker. let's listen. >> well, i think it's safe to say boehner is not forcing either of you guys out, right? >> that's pretty true. it might work a little bit the other way, rush. >> what do you make of that? it might work a little bit the other way. an out-going united states senator not being very out-going about the speaker of the house saying he might lose his job because demint is going to the heritage f
never find his way back to the middle in november. on the other side is the right wing, jim demint, rick santorum, the talk radio conservative media industrial complex. they make the same argument identify logs always make when they lose. the problem to them was our guy wasn't ideological enough. the conflict is playing out in technicolor with demint bowling the united states senate to become the ceo of the conservative movement. and firing a warning shot at bay boehner in the process. joining me are michael steele and joy reid, managing editor of thegrio.com. she's also one of us. thank you gentleman and lady. i want you to look at something. this is what happens when you g near what i call the misery index, the risch limbaugh show. yesterday jim demint, still the united states senator from south carolina, and the outgoing heritage president ed fuelner went on rush and yuck yucked about john boehner. they made fun of the speaker. let's listen. >> well, i think it's save to say boehner is not forcing either of you guys out, right? >> that's pretty true. >> it might work a little bit the
at the right you see jim demint, a guy the late tim russert once said i can't believe jim demint is a senator. he is the leader, the ramrod of all those right wing challenges. he put up ron johnson to beat mitch mcconnell because he's too liberal. he's leaving, quitting his senate seat, giving it up, to run the heritage foundation. we have other stuff coming up, but let's start with that. >> first of all, he's going to make a lot more money. ed fuelner, who is leaving, makes $1 million a year. demint has a net worth of $40,000. secondly, the leadership has tried to rein him in. they've said, you can't go out and go after these conservative republicans with really conservative republicans in primaries because you're setting us up to lose senate seats. now that he's out of there, he can become a kind of cross between grover norquist and the jim demint he always was. he can drive these hard right ideas, but he can also sponsor hard right candidates in republican primaries. i think he thinks he's going to be more important at the heritage foundation than he is in the senate. >> let me ask you abo
. the goose is getting fat. >> plus, go on. >> south carolina senator jim demint is dequitting. >> run stephen, run. >> you want somebody young, conservative, from south carolina. maybe who has super pac pointing -- wait a second. ♪ >> thank goodness it's friday and it's a busy one at that. we have breaking news. within the last hour, the supreme court has announced that it will for the first time take up appeals on same-sex marriage. hearing cases on the defense of marriage act and california's proposition 8. much more on that in a moment, and the busy week ends with some good news for america's workers and the president. a little christmas cheer some early. the u.s. economy generating a stronger than expected 146,000 new jobs in november helping trim the jobless rate to 7.7%. a four-year low. happy holidays, right? not if you're john boehner. >> this isn't a progress report because there is no progress to report. the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> yes, indeed, it's like a visit from the ghost of christmas past,
on the right. these stories breaking tonight. right wing senator jim demint, the man behind to many failed right wing senate challengers christine i'm not a witch o'donnell, richard mourdock announced today's quitting the senate to run the hard right heritage foundation. meanwhile, in the republican house a purge is under way with speaker boehner dumping uncontrollable right wingers from prize committee assignments. they're out because they're too right. so what is too right for the republicans following the defeat this week or their defeat last month? is voting nay in the senate against a handicap rights treaty because it carries the nightmare dread of blue helmets riding black helicopters sweeping into your home school room. is that okay? what's out? what's in. in the republican party that just took a licking. bob shrum is a democratic strategist and columnist at the daily beast and john brabender ran rick santorum's presidential campaign. i expect you gentleman to play fair and aim directly below the belt. just kidding, bob. i want to ask you as a liberal a progressive, looking across a
. stay away. so i guess jim demint is following that trend. what does that say about the most exclusive club? >> and the tea party. >> it's very telling. but first have to wish you happy slash the 'stache day. >> oh, thank you, mike. >> it's big, mike. a big day here. >> exciting. >> and this is one sign of how the younger, more partisan congress is pushing power to the outside. and it was very telling that jim demint, when he announced this, which took everyone by surprise. we knew that he wasn't running again in 2016, but he hadn't said what he was going to do. and he was in line to be the top republican on the commerce and transportation committee, a very powerful, very lucrative committee. they're going to be in charge of a rewrite of the highway bill, they're in charge of telecoms, a lot of other areas that bring in a lot of contributions. but when he announced this, he gave an interview to the editorial page of "the wall street journal," and he talked to rush limbaugh rather than talking directly to his colleagues. and that said it all about this outside power that you were pointi
brushes. go to oralb.com for the latest offers. >>> south carolina senator jim demint is now talking publicly about his surprised announcement to step down from the senate. he abruptly quit the president to become the president of the influential conservative think tank, the heritage foundation. >> i don't think republicans will win another national election until conservatives first convince americans that our principles work. i think i'm in a more powerful position than a single united states senator. i wouldn't feel good about living if we didn't have so many new, bright young conservatives in the senate. >> joining me now is steve and republican strategist and form are campaign manager for huckabee, jim saltsman. >> hello. >> pmr. demint has been trying o leverage his position as the tea party's uncompromising man in the gop and that his effort has failed or stalled. >> i don't think i agree with "the washington post" at all. i think he's had a great impact across the country and i think the move to the heritage makes a lot of sense to him personally. he always said he was going
. with the surprise news today that senator jim demint after blasting speaker boehner's debt reduction plan will step down from the senate to head a conservative think tank. quote, i've decided to join the heritage foundation at a time when the conservative movement needs strong leadership in the battle of ideas. yes, the strong leadership of lobbyists. asked by rush limbaugh if boehner was forcing him out, demint replied, it might work a little bit the other way. let's get to our panel. with us from washington is msnbc political analyst david corn, msnbc contributor dr. jared bernstein, senior fellow at the center on budget and policy priorities and a former economist for vice president joe biden and also with us is msnbc political analyst karen finney. david, first, senator demint dumps all over boehner's job plan, now he's jumping ship altogether. how much of a loss is mr. demint, a man who once said single mothers who live with their boyfriends should not be allowed to teach in public schools? >> we at mother jones.com just put up the seven craziest things jim demint has ever said. there was a lo
the day then. we just got this breaking news that senator jim demint is going to leave the senate in january to become the president of the heritage foundation. demint had been holding boehner's feet to the fire on these tax cuts. what's your reaction to that and this on the heels of reports that boehner is getting strong backing in the house? >> let me start with senator demint. he always has seen himself as a movement conservative. i think what he thinks is he can make a much more significant and much more impactful difference outside leading this movement, ala at the heritage foundation. the heritage foundation has always been an incubator of ideas. moving on to speaker boehner, this is a good thing that he has his caucus behind him. i remind you and the audience that has not always been the case. a lot of tea party folks and other folks have never trusted speaker boehner but they've given him a lot of leeway given the fact they're united by this overall principle that they should not raise taxes on small business owners. >> shouldn't it mean that you should stick out your term
. >>> to our political war room now. south carolina republican senator jim demint stealing the spotlight this week with his sudden resignation, sparking a lot of speculation about who might replace him. so who will it be and what will demin's departure mean for the gop? and it might not be the only shake-up within the republican party as rnc chairman reis up f e election as well. alex fini and caton dawson, as well. former chairman of the south carolina republican party, former adviser to the rick perry campaign. good to have you both on this saturday afternoon. before we get to the discussion, let me go ahead and address the big elephant in the room, kate dawson. you told reporters at the hill that you would be open to filling the seat that's being left vacant by senator jim demint. has the governor approached you? has she called you? >> craig, i put your name in the hat this morning. i remember when you carried a camera all over south carolina on your shoulder. you along with 1.2 million other people have asked for that job. governor hailey is going to make a solid pick. it's her choic
disaster areas in late october. >>> tea party leader and some say gop king-maker, senator jim demint of south carolina, is stepping down from congress, this happening on january 1st. demint will become head of the heritage foundation. that's a conservative think tank with an $80 million-a-year budget. demint is just two years into a second six-year term, and south carolina governor nikki haley will appoint his successor. >>> so, 2012 was officially the most expensive election in american political history. the final reports show that spending on the campaign broke the $2 billion landmark and milestone in its final weeks, helping set the record. las vegas casino mogul sheldon adelson and his wife poured more than $95 million into super political action committees that helped republicans, including mitt romney. >>> this sounds more like a plot out of a tom clancy cold war novel. a rove navy sailor is suspected of telling top-secret submarine tracking technology to the russians. nbc affiliate reporter andy fox with wavy has this story. >> reporter: robert hoffman appeared in court weari
, tea party favorite and conservative icon senator jim demint, one of the most powerful republicans in washington, he's from south carolina, well, he says he's stepping down from the senate next month. the 61-year-old republican is leaving his job to become president of the heritage foundation, a powerful conservative think tank. he actually says he'll have more influence on conservative principles. >> the idea of going to the heritage foundation, which is the premier conservative think tank in our country, and leveraging their assets to communicate to all americans that we can make their lives better, this is a dream job for me, and it's critically important. i don't think republicans will win another national election unless conservatives first convince americans that our principles work. i think i'm in a more powerful position than a single united states senator. i wouldn't feel good about leaving if we didn't have so many new, bright, young conservatives now in the senate. >> with jim demint leaving, it's now going to be up to south carolina governor nikki haley to determine who
how much good cheer he's feeling from his conservative senate colleague jim demint who has chastised him today and i'm quoting mr. de ment menthe, speaker boehner's $800 billion tax hike will destroy american jobs and allow politicians in washington to spend even more while not reducing our $16 trillion debt by a single penny, and he continues with this line, big government is the cause of our debt crisis. sir, big government, what about the two big long wars and the big bush tax cuts as being responsible for the in accordance debt? did they have no part to play? >> well, there's no question about that, but the truth of the matter is you start your slashing of government in matter what part, laying off people, throwing them into the unemployment marment, making certain we have no disposable income, can't pay for mortgages, can't pay rent, can't pay for food and services, what happens to the small businessman that's already catching hell in the community? in other words, unless people get together and have some protection for the vulnerable and to make certain that those in the top 2%
at the process and say, where are we today? what's possible? >> but isn't it a lot easier to do what jim demint did? and that's what i did when i was in congress. >> i think that actually helps boehner. >> why does it help painer? >> because he's drawn a line in the sand for the fiscal conservatives. and it communicates to both the white house and boehner, here's how far you can go. the other side of that is is the proposal that was offered to the president had all these signatures of all the leadership plus paul ryan coming back. so what boehner's done is said here's, we're as a team including paul ryan, suggesting this. what you have is some firming up on the conservative side, which i think says boehner, this is probably about as far as you can go. >> right. exactly. and so since joe said, so what is the outcome? what is your -- a compromise, you want to get a deal done, what do you think is possible here as a final tactic? >> i think you could create a -- what i would recommend doing is create a small package that shows the debt markets, not the american people, the debt markets that we're
. >> alfonso, speaker boehner is already seeing backlash within his own party, jim demint releasing a statement calling the tax revenue proportion of boehner's $800 billion tax hike. so here it is with boehner trying to make the base happy, meanwhile trying to meet the president within these negotiations and rise up to his leadership vision. what else is it that the base doesn't seem to like? if the base was able to rally around the right candidate that they wanted to for president, mitt romney would be worried about this coming up in the next presidential term. >> look, the fact that boehner's been criticized by conservative organizations and other republicans show that he's seriously considering negotiating the white house and we saw the results of the election, we're willing to concede their increases in revenue but to the point of my colleague, we are not in parliamentary democracy but we're not in a monarchy either. we're in a constitutional democracy and the mandate of the people was for both parties to work together. republicans are saying, we're willing to increase revenue. what is the
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south carolina, senator jim demint. it seems rather sudden. amy, why do you think it's happening now? >> i don't know. i think that's something ed can speak to a little better. he covers congress. >> ed, jump in. >> don't worry about it. he was slated to become the republican on the congress committee. he had to get out now or else he would have to put together a staff. made sense for him to go now. secondly, leaving and essentially announcing it now gives the governor enough time over the next few weeks to make a decision who to put in. he made it clear he wasn't running for election when he was up in 2016. there were some rumblings he would leave early. some people do this when they announce they aren't running again. sets up a fantastic scenario for republicans. all the talk around tim scott. he's a congressman, a black republican, very conservative. what would it say that the state that once elected strom thurmond to the senate would potentially have the only black man in the senate and he just so happens is a republican. you would put potentially tim scott in the senate, have hi
and certainly in the senate was an issue, as jim demint left. he is going to run heritage. you have paul ryan and marco rubio speaking at a jack kemp dinner. and i want to play a piece of sound from each of them. and it says something about how they see the future of the republican party. >> i've heard it suggested that the problem is that the american people have changed. that too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people, they just want what my parents had, a chance. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. we need to speak to the aspirations. we must speak to the aspirations and the anxieties of every american. >> newt, that's a long way from the 47% of mitt romney. >> well, first of all, every republican should be focussed on what we just talked about. i mean, if their competitor in '16 is going to be hillary clinton, supported by bill clinton and presumably a still relatively popular president barack obama, trying to w
to confirm here now conservative south carolina senator jim demint is leaving the senate in january. if he does step down, governor nikki haley would be able to appoint a temporary replacement. are you surprised by that at all, tony? >> i am. it's the first i've heard of this. nikki haley would have an opportunity to name a replacement. you'd also have to consider nikki haley a strong candidate to run for that position. so definitely something a lot of people would want to look for. >> what do you make of this, kiki? >> well, look, i think that the conservatives in the republican party are probably looking for leadership. demint has been that consistently conservative person but i think we've got to hear from him why he's making that choice to leave the senate and do that. >> all right. thank you again both. i also want to say that i was also just handed this, that new jersey's governor chris christie just entered the white house through the west executive entrance but he apparently is there to talk about sandy aid. also making news, a massive recovery effort in the philippines after a cat
the surprising resignation of tea party favorite jim demint. it seems kind of sudden. why now? >> everybody was surprised about this. but i seems in the aftermath of the election the republicans are still in the minority of the senate. demint was in the minority of the minority. that's not a very powerful place to be. demint always known as a bomb thrower, someone who liked to make trouble. he figured he's probably correct about this he could have more power and influence and be less restrained from the outside advocating for his ideas which has also been his first priority. >> david, what about congressman tim scott? that's a person most being talked up as a replacement. why if so if it's true? >> although he's just finishing his first term in the house, he has a lot of support from the tea party but also he worked well on the establishment on the republican side. john boehner tapped him to be one of the young leaders. i think there's also the factor he's african-american. there's no other african americans in the senate. he'd be the only one i think the republican side in congress. at a t
the tea party's maker jim demint, he will leave office left a hole in the senate at a crucial time. the leading contenders are tim scott, gresham bare rhett, henry mcmaster, nathan valentine and my next guest, congressman from south carolina. it's great to have you here. you are on the short, short list of people to fill the seat. you were quoted saying if the governor were to ask you, you will take the job. but the big question is, do you want the job? >> oh, sure. i think any politician who tells you he wouldn't like to be a united states senator is lying to you. we talked preliminarily with senator demint about what would happen if he retired in 2016. we have given it some thought. any person it's offered to would take it. >> have you spoken to the governor about this, yet? if so, what has the discussion been like? >> i have not. i have friends of hers. we served in the legislature together. i was in the house with her for two years. i have several friends in her office. i have spoken to them, not the governor directly. >> do you feel you have an inside track into her thoughts o
on the wealthy but aims to get the money through cuts in deductions. senator jim demint denounced boehner's plan as a tax hike that will, quote, destroy american jobs and allow politicians in washington to spend even more. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell also distanced himself from the boehner plan declining to endorse it yesterday. >> we've wasted enormous amount of time here sparring back and forth in public, and it strikes me it's a good time to get serious about the proposals. so i have no other particular observation than i commend the house republican leadership for trying to move the process along and getting to a point where hopefully we can have a real discussion. >> but why is the the gop still hot on its desire to raise money through cuts and deductions rather than an actual increase in the top end tax rate? well, i think it's likely because the most ductions in states happen to be the higher blue states. in other words, the gop wants the states that largely reelected the the president to bear the brunt of the financial burden for his plan. and while no deal has been reached ye
jim demint is off to run a think tank. let's see what parts he'll be imparting. on economic policy, he believes the stimulus was a mugging, a fraud. his wisdom on human rights, guys shouldn't be allowed to teach. and gender studies, let's just say he was one of the first to stand with todd akin after his legitimate rape comments and it turns out that the party didn't even have a clue even though they pretended to. >> the party which you acknowledged which erupted last week was todd akin's comments which, unfortunately, have made him unelectable. >> he's unelectable, said senator cornyn. only today we learned that the senator's committee quietly gave mr. akin $760,000 to boost his campaign. and then there's mr. on air meltdown rove. >> do you believe that ohio has been settled? >> no, i don't. >> so you're not saying that obama isn't going to win, you're just -- >> i think this is premature. i don't know what the outcome is going to be but we've got to be careful about calling things when you have 991 votes separating the two candidates. >> the polls were wrong, then, and he thinks that
split. for example, senator jim demint said speaker boehner's tax hike will destroy american jobs and allow politicians to spend even more, et cetera, et cetera. keep in mind where boehner started, that's not where they're going to end up. they have to go to the left, so he's going to have a problem on his hands at least from some parts of the party. this woenn't be the end, either. immigration is probably next. that's another tough pill for some republicans to swallow, so this is going to be an ongoing saga. >> you're right that it is a very inside the beltway story, but it is sort of an important story in that we see how boehner has to deal with this caucus. he's kind of got multiple factions around him, multiple parts of the gop to rein in. that's probably the most difficult part for him, and he has this white house very powerful, has the leverage, has the wind at its back from just winning the election. the people are saying that they're going to blame the republicans if this -- if we dive off the cliff. now, if they don't sell the capitulation in the right way, then the right
boehner's deal. senator jim demint says the tax hike will destroy american jobs. the coke brothers say leaves conservatives wanting. the heritage foundation said the proposal was asking republicans to go back on their promise not to raise taxes. so there is pushback. >> there is push back. it's not surprising there's push back, given the fact this is essentially on economic issues. all that the republican party has stood for for decades now. but what's going to be important to look for is what are those numbers. i think there are going to be a certain number of republicans who don't vote for it. that's a given. you have to look at how many republicans do vote for it. the question here is will those republicans who support a compromise deal, support increased taxes face a backlash in their own primaries? will they suffer at the ballot box? i think if you have a good, substantial chunk of the republican caucus going along with the deal, there are safety in numbers so they can't be voted out, they can't be primaried in that same way if a lot of them go along with it. >> now, a lot of this
. senator jim demint said speaker boehner's $800 billion tax hike will destroy american jobs. yes, he said speaker boehner. one party proposes increase in an effort to counter them. the other party's leadership proposes, wait for it, $800 billion in tax increases and then former alaska governor sarah palin blasting boehner's decision to remove some conservatives from plum house committee assignments writing, come on now, gop. don't go wobbly on us. congressman jim jordan, an influential group of conservatives criticized the boehner plan. >> the problem i have with the republican proposal, frankly, is that it does raise taxes. the thing we need is economic growth. you're not going to grow the economy, put in place a framework conducive to job creation if you're raising ta s taxes. >> oklahoma senator tom coburn said conservative criticism might not be all that bad. >> i think that helps boehner. >> he's drawn a line in the sand for the fiscal conservatives and it communicates to both the white house and boehner. here is how far you can go. >> coburn also acknowledged house republican plan
's potential to get a sizable deal but as you pointed out with rand paul and jim demint, they were never going to come to the table for a deal that both parties could stomach, at least. so i don't think that john boehner is particularly worried about those two and some republicans on the far right not voting with him anyway. >> who then is worried about in he said that the president needs to talk at a table. they were at a holiday party. not the location perhaps to discuss the fiscal cliff but to show civility and speaker boehner as we understand it didn't go over to talk with the president as he is in the president's house technically. so, i mean, what do we make here? what's the logical next step, erin? >> there is frustration on capitol hill of a breakdown in communications between the white house and republicans on capitol hill. i talked to several republicans around here yesterday who are upset that president obama and some of his staff haven't been to the hill to meet with them so i don't actually know the next step and a breakdown in communication. >> keith, do you buy that, that there'
, which is already unacceptable to people like jim demint and others. >> governor dean, if you looked at this from the republican perspective and you go with what horowitz's presumption they're going to cave on rates at some point and go along with it, would you advise them politically the sooner the better? get this off the doorstep. >> they need to do that. had they not taken such extreme positions mitt romney might have done a lot better. i think the president is in command here. they're not going to beat him on this one. they'll make themselves look bad. i think they do, and if i were them i would do what boehner is talking about. here's the other problem, though. if boehner is not going to get the 60 or 70 tea party people, so he has to get some democrats. i don't think he can get democrats if they do something like try to raise the age of medicare or something like that. eligibility for medicare. that is a no-go zone for any reasonable, respectable democrat. this is not even. even if boehner caves, he can't bring his caucus with him. he has to deal with nancy pelosi one way or a
up next on "andrea mitchell reports," jim demint is out. the tea party leader announces his departure from congress. what does it mean for the senate and the future of the republican party? chuck todd, gop senator leader john barrasso and more. congressman john larson on what role house democrats can play in the budget negotiations. and the latest on the showdown in syria and defense secretary leon panetta's warning for president assad with former ambassador nick burns. male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i introduced jill to crest pro-health for life. selected for people over 50. pro-health for life is a toothpaste that defends against tender, inflamed gums, sensitivity and weak enamel. conditions people over 50 experience. crest pro-health for life. so jill can keep living the good life. crest. life opens up when you do. [ tylenol bottle ] me too! and nasal congestion. [ tissue box ] he said nasal congestion. yeah...i heard him. [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal
behind them being comforted? so the optics are not equally matched. i want to talk about senator jim demint and his resignation. we knew he would leave the senate. this timing surprised people. he said in his resignation, michael, i'm leaving the senate and not living the fight. i've decided to join the heritage foundation at a time when the conservative movement needs strong leadership in the battle of ideas. dick army left his conservative group and senator demint making this transition to the think tank. is this another impact of the election? another consequence of the election? >> yeah, i'd love to know what his republican colleagues are saying behind closed doors. from my perch, you know, this is a guy who played a significant role in costing the gop about a half-dozen seats that they otherwise would have won. look at what happened in i understand. look at what happened in delaware where the mindset of senator demint seems to be one of, let's win the battle, even if we're going to lose the war. they've lost about a half-dozen wars because they put forth names that could win a primary
for it. senator jim demint announcing he's going to resign from the senate to go lead heritage foundation. now, i know this is brand-new to you, so you can take a moment to digest. do you think that this changes the grounds of negotiations for the fiscal cliff, and do you think that he's in some way -- he's been aa very ardent tea party supporter, critic of john boehner even with his initial proposal. is he going to wield actually more power at the heritage foundation than he does right now as a senator? >> it's always a joke when anybody talks about wielding more power out of elective office as a civilian than in elective office. it's a real help to the republicans in the senate because he has cost them the senate. he has done more damage to the senate and most especially to republicans in the senate than anyone else. he has backed these crazy, nutty tea parties who have gutted the republican nomination for senate in various states around the country, and then he went on to lose to democrats thereby preserving the democratic control of the senate, preserving harry he reed therei. he had
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